After my post about brokers that I use and recommend, a few people were asking what exactly the $2.50 rule is. Fair enough; let me clear that up.
The $2.50 rule applies when you are short selling stocks that are priced under $2.50. Basically, the rule states that for every share you are short, you still need to put up $2.50 of capital, even if the stock is priced lower.
Why does this matter? Let's say you have a $1000 account and you want to short sell pennystocks. If the stock is under $2.50, you will not be able to take a full $1000 position, even if you wanted to. Here's the math:
You have a $1000 account;
For ANY stock under $2.50, you must still put up $2.50 in capital.
Divide $1000 by $2.50, and the MOST shares you can short is 400 shares, REGARDLESS of price.
This can be a huge frustration for small accounts. You might have the perfect supernova chart and the stock is trading at $1, but you can't short 1000 shares. You can only short 400 because of the $2.50 rule.
Here are a few examples of the MOST shares you can short based on your account value:
$1000 account - 400 shares max
$2500 account - 1000 shares max
$5000 account - 2000 shares max
$10,000 account - 4000 shares max
$25,000 account - 10,000 shares max
The cheaper the stock, the larger a disadvantage this is because of the smaller $ position size you will ultimately wind up taking. Unfortunately, it's one of the realities of short selling but as your account grows, it will become less of a nuisance. I hope this helps clear up any confusion!
My name is Tim Grittani (kroyrunner89), and I've been a full-time daytrader since the beginning of 2012. I've learned a lot along the way from my successes and failures and would like to pass along some of these lessons. This blog will hopefully save me time in answering the dozens of questions I get each week through Facebook and Twitter. If not, I guess I just created more work.
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Tuesday, February 4, 2014
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ReplyDeleteAny chance you could explain why a stock like SOUL goes from $1.50 to over $14 on relatively low volume, and there has been significantly higher volume since mid-December, yet the stock has barely moved (see 1 year daily chart). Thanks
ReplyDeleteSOUL had a stock split, meaning they increased the # of shares outstanding which also made the price cheaper. At the time SOUL wasn't really that expensive, the chart just got altered because of the split
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ReplyDeleteSay you purchase 10,000 shares of a stock at $1.00 a share and the $2.50 rule causes your account to be charged $25,000, ($15,000 more than the share price). My question is when you sell the stock (ex. $1.15) is your account immediately credited the $15,000 so you can trade immediately or do you have to wait the 3 day period for your funds to become settled? Thanks, Tim.
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